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August 31, 2011

Optimizing Clinical Outcomes: Are We Really All in this Together?


4 Comments to “Optimizing Clinical Outcomes: Are We Really All in this Together?”

  1. Tony Cusano said,

    September 7, 2011 @ 7:24 am

    This may be a duplicate, but it appears that my first submission did not go through.

    As a community of physicians we must hold ourselves accountable for this connundrum. We have all too easily taken the way forward to add new therapies and medications to our armamentarium when we saw our limitations and thought that the latest and the greatest seemed to have more to offer. However, our adherence to the kind of scientific scrutiny of our new discoveries was usually less of a rigorous application of statistical experimentation than it was a proof of concept exploration that then became dogma by the power of financial, social and cultural prizes spread among all of us. Consequently, many standards have not just become outdated, but proven dangerous over the years as more rigorous studies have been conducted (see Ioannides reference below for a fuller discussion of this).
    I believe it is time for us to reevaluate all of our standards, not from the point of view of what seems best practice to a group of experts, but with a transparent exposition of the evidence and its limitations, and a clear delineation of what risks we are willing to accept, and for what level of benefit, certain or uncertain. This must involve open discussions among our community, with our financiers, and with our patients, so that we and they can understand what risks we are taking with our treatments, and what exactly they can expect in return, and at what cost.
    In that line of thinking, our new experience with ESA’s is like us learning how to tie our shoes.
    I also believe that the resources of the Davita Village represent a unique and potentially fertile space for physicians, scientists, payers and patients to actually lead the way in developing the cultural tools to conduct the kind of collaborative scientific inquiry that can lead us to develop both cost effective and safe medical care for kidney diseases. Why not make that kind of leadership part of our mission?

    references
    1.Ioannides J, PLoS Medicine | http://www.plosmedicine.org 0696
    Essay August 2005 | Volume 2 | Issue 8 | e124
    2.Ioannides j, Epidemiology • Volume 19, Number 5, September 2008

  2. Rex Mahnensmith said,

    September 20, 2011 @ 1:08 pm

    We have implemented Shape with each revision. I am finding that our nurses, particularly our PD nurses, who function in an authentic primary nurse clinician role, advocate that holding Epo at Hemoglobin 11.0 or above puts the patient at risk. Particularly with those patients who have an EPO dose that is above 15000 per week, we typically decide not to withhold Epo but rather we reduce the dose. The dose is often reduced by 50% or a bit more, but we are finding satisfaction with this approach. Our patients also expression frustration about hemoglobin cycling and size of doses when hemoglobin falls substantially, so this approach seems rationale to all of us. I don’t believe we are putting patients at risk with this approach nor do we believe we are practicing “wrongly” with Epo.

  3. Allen Nissenson said,

    September 23, 2011 @ 9:03 am

    Appreciate the comments. Regarding anemia management nephrologists need to consider available protocols, current best evidence, regulatory guidance and then make decisions based on individual patient needs. This area has not been black and white since the introduction of EPO in 1989 and I fully expect evidence to continue to be generated that will result in further changes in management approach for many years to come.

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